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      Friday, February 10, 2012 2:44 AM
       
       
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      I've begun having problems with thumbnail images.  The address for the thumbnail image is the address of the image in my computer even though I've uploaded the image to my website.  See http://www.ttalk.info/test.html for an example.  I'm running EW4 SP2 from Windows 7.  I've been using the auto-thumbnail approach for quite awhile without problems.  This seems to have cropped up in the past month or so.  Any help will certainly be appreciated.  Thanks. Bud Krueger
       

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    • Friday, February 10, 2012 2:58 AM
       
       
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      ???

      I don't see the problem. The only thumbnail apparent on the linked page that I saw (Lazarus) seemed OK. Checking the source, I didn't see any obvious local file system references. When asking for help, please link to the specific page exhibiting the problem(s), and describe exactly what you expect to see, specifically where you expect to see it, and precisely what you are seeing instead. We're pretty good, but we're not mindreaders.   ;-)

      cheers,
      scott

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    • Friday, February 10, 2012 3:12 AM
       
       
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      It's at http://www.ttalk.info/test.html . You may not have snagged the /test.html.

      Me? I never use the autothumbnail (and you didn't use it for the Lazarus thumbnail either). I tried it on one of my existing sites. Yuck. I hate the bloated code.

      Did you open the site first and then the page? It looks as though you either did that or have Manage Site with Metadata turned off. You can't work on a lone page without first opening the site that it's part of. EW needs to be able to reference the root of the site to manage the metadata and adjust the links to things.

      Comic Sans walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Get out! We don't serve your type."



      • Edited by Bill Pearson Friday, February 10, 2012 3:20 AM
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    • Friday, February 10, 2012 3:31 AM
       
       
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      Hmm... OK, I see it now. That's what can happen when the poster doesn't make his links clickable.  ;-)

      Bud, are you opening your local Web site before you open any individual files to begin working on them? In order to keep track of where resources are located, and adjust links to be relative to the referencing document when saved, EW must be able to use hidden metadata files, and must have the context of the site (folder) within which files are created, manipulated, and saved. If you simply open EW and then open a file to work on it, EW does not have the context it needs to create document-relative links, so saves file-system-relative links instead. Always open your site first, then open the individual files you wish to edit.

      cheers,
      scott

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    • Friday, February 10, 2012 6:24 PM
       
       
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      Thanks for the responses.

      I always open my local website in EW4 to begin any work on it.  From there I generally begin by opening a master and start adding, or open an existing page and start modifying. Habitually, I copy images into the website file.  I've been doing the same thing since the first days of FrontPage.  This problem with the thumbnails seems to be a recent event.  Last I knew, the metadata block was checked.

      I've even tried editing/saving/publishing the html code to show the location within the site.  When I re-open the page I find that EW4 has returned the image location address to the original file location.  Puzzling.

      Sorry for forcing you to have to manually enter the URL.  This is my first attempt at using this forum.  The image of Lazarus on the homepage was created a number years ago, probably before FrontPage.

      Thanks,

      Bud Krueger

       

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    • Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:46 AM
       
       
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      I've found the problem and the workaround, but not the cause.  EW4 is no longer publishing the thumbnail images (...small) to the website.  I located them and published them to the site.  Thumbnail images now show up.

      Bud Krueger

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    • Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:12 AM
       
       
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      Sorry, but like Bill and others here, I do not use the auto-thumbnail feature, so I have no standard procedures or comparison methods to judge by. AFAIK, if you are always opening the site before beginning work, then working only with files contained within the site, with site management using hidden metadata enabled, EW will always publish the necessary files when Publish Changed Files is selected. That it is not doing so in your case is idiosyncratic and inexplicable.

      cheers
      scott

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    • Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:24 AM
       
       
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      I think that the cause may be that the thumbnails are on your hard drive outside of your defined website. EW can't access them to publish them.

      Is the root folder of your website really named AsOf062411?

      I also note:

      images/MG-Logo03.gif
      images/AssyLube.JPG
      images/DoorLatches/Klaus/Passenger%20Door%20Measurement.jpg
      car_lists.htm

      Four very different ways to name files--mixed case with hyphen, mixed case (especially the JPG), mixed case with spaces, lower case with underscores. Yikes!

      Before you go any further, settle on one--and only one--naming convention. Your life will be a LOT easier. Never use the 3rd--with spaces (the %20 in the name) in file or folder names; some servers balk at those as they travel across the Web to the visitor, and the item will not display. And I never use underscores for anything because they dissappear when displayed as a link on a page.

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    • Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:02 PM
       
       
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      Bill, the ...small files are definitely in my website root folder (yes, its name is AsOf062411).  That's the only place they could be since they are created when the site folder is opened and is being worked on in EW4.  They had never been transmitted to the website. I never edit the website folder outside of using EW4, though I'm tempted to fire up Frontpage.

      The Ttalkinfo site is a hobby-related thing for me.  I'm an enthusiast of old MG cars, particularly 1950-1955 TD and TF models.  I use the site to share information with other enthusiasts.  Much of the content is from folks who send me things via email in a variety of formats, .doc, .xls, .pdf, wpf, etc.  At this time I think there about 300 some pages and about 1,000 images that have accumulated over the last 7 years.  Every once in a while I get into an editing mode and argue about html vs. htm, upper case vs. lower case, editing spaces out of sender's files, etc., etc. I'd rather spend my time trying to restore a pile of parts back into a car, e.g., http://www.ttalk.info/The53.htm (hope that's a clickable link for you).

      Thanks for your attention, but I'll keep hunting for the cause.

      Bud Krueger

       

      Bud Krueger